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runkaballe on 19 September, 2007 at 12:42 am #

Lost jobs is nothing compared to what will happened in a few years when Ford GM falls down in a hole.
I wouldn´t worry new technology always have issues and the lifespan of batteries is just a few years.


OUTOFGAS88 on 19 September, 2007 at 1:25 pm #

yes it could as much as 3/4 depending on the grade of coal you use,because just like with crude oil you have the good stuff and the junk.here is the main problem with the electric car although it is superior to gas powered vehicles,it will kill all the jobs related to cars with internal combustion engine that’s why it was taken off the market in the first place its virtually maintenance free,no need for mechanics or replacement parts.


runkaballe on 20 September, 2007 at 2:06 am #

I´m no expert on price of coal but generally it´s a lot lower then for gasoline.
To refine crude oil to gasoline also cost energy.
1/6 energy out put, were in hell did you get those numbers? coals energy value is about 30MJ/kg and gasoline is about 44MJ/kg, so it´s more like 3/4.
The internal combustion engine is a terrible invention with an efficiency of 25-30% probably even lower if you drive in a city.
Compared to an electric motor that easily have a efficiency over 90%


OUTOFGAS88 on 21 September, 2007 at 2:07 pm #

net energy its going to cost more to produce synthetic fuel from coal then you can from selling it,it sounds to me like you need more facts,about,fossil fuels and what they can and can’t do for instance did you know that coal is 1\6 the energy out put of crude oil.
did you know that one barrel of light sweet crude oil (42gallons) produces the same amount of energy as a man doing twenty five thousand hours of heavy manual labor,oil is a miracle substance that we have pissed away.


runkaballe on 21 September, 2007 at 6:21 pm #

Any car that need more then 0.3″liter”/10km has to pay a penelty tax on 100000 dollars a year.
Increase the driving age to the age of drinking beer.
Tax cuts for carpooling, get rid of parking spaces in cities so people use a bike or a buss.
Make it cheaper to go by train and bus then driving.
Again the coal reserve in the US is big enough to power the US for 50-60 years.


OUTOFGAS88 on 24 September, 2007 at 12:57 am #

all i can say to that comment runkablle is keep dreaming,yes its true you can make a synthetic fuel from not only coal,but also other things,that’s not the point the point is that the US of automobiles consume nearly NINE BILLION GALLONS of gasoline every year,
if you believe by any stretch of the imagination that you can produce that amount of fuel from coal you are the truly ignorant one.


OUTOFGAS88 on 26 September, 2007 at 9:42 am #

the key to understanding why WHY MODERN INDUSTRIAL CIVILIZATION is dead,is becoming knowledgeable,about OIL once you understand what it is, why it is, what rule it plays in our lives,and what our live would be like without it,i believe all those who think there is any combination of alternative energy sources out there that will allow us to maintain the the quality of life we currently enjoy ,as well as the current world population,will see that THE END is here.we have to wake up and see it.


VonLilliehook on 27 September, 2007 at 4:32 am #

And why is that?
Oil is not the only thing that a truck can run on.


docv527 on 27 September, 2007 at 10:17 pm #

Without cheap and abundant oil we won’t even be able to get the coal out of the ground. It won’t do us any good.


DaveJP1973 on 1 October, 2007 at 5:10 am #

Oil is $44 a barrel and falling.. they can’t give it away! Peak Oil is a massive conspiracy created by internet scaremongerers and the oil producing nations themselves - it’s the Cuba Missile Crisis of the 2000’s.. I’m bored of it all now and waiting for something more exciting we’re all going to die of. SARS was going to end life as we know it.. and now it’s ancient history!


d1incharge on 4 October, 2007 at 2:56 pm #

hey the sky is falling again……..dumb
live scared!………..dumb
base all of your argument on paid for second hand news or research……….dumb


LastReplaySC on 4 October, 2007 at 8:35 pm #

well, we have to stop doing what we are doing and pretty fast, because if we only have 30 years to use the same of what we’re using today without using more, then we will need all that energy to create regenerative and clean power-stations, we will still be short of energy so we all would have to cut energy use by at least 70% ….. omg yes wow… thats the only way to have enough time for about 5 Billion humans, but we’re about 9 Billion+ by that time…fuck knows


runkaballe on 7 October, 2007 at 12:56 am #

What ells can we do???


LastReplaySC on 7 October, 2007 at 4:45 pm #

if your only thinking in your time scale of life …. yes your right, but if your thinking of humanity! once our dead and gone …. your just simply part of the problem and one of the idiots of the past. You are still burning “Hydrocarbons” ….. either way … the solution is not to burn hydrocarbons for energy not switching to a different form … , because you’ll end up with the same problem sooner or later


runkaballe on 11 October, 2007 at 3:58 am #

Don´t you know how to read??
“Coal can make electricity and electricity can power a hydrogen-car or a electric one.”
You can use coal to make hydrogen, what was it that you didn´t understand???
The US could easily cut it´s oil dependency in half, if politicians and people wasn´t so fucking stupid.


LastReplaySC on 13 October, 2007 at 6:40 am #

dream on do some maths and homework yourself and then wake up! Hydrogen is only an energy carrier, seen any hydrogen generators or motors for sale anywhere? planes running on hydrogen, plans for a hydrogen fuel-nets? … Germans spoke of winning WW2 with the V2 rocket … hope is always the last thing that dies


runkaballe on 16 October, 2007 at 7:22 am #

your ignorance amuse me.
Coal can make electricity and electricity can power a hydrogen-car or a electric one.
You can make gas of coal and that can be used in a car.
In a few years there will be engines that can be powered by coal-powder.
There is enough coal to provide the entire planet with all of its energy for 57 years.
And the US have 27% of the coal reserve in the world, make the math……


LastReplaySC on 18 October, 2007 at 9:09 am #

so your gonna run your car on coal are you`? …. lol don’t make me laugh … china has blackouts already they are putting 1 power-plant on the grid every 2 weeks. The US will be at was within the next 2 yeas somewhere in Africa … NIGERIA and then tell all sheep that we have Globally peaked as soon as china starts intervention, say no to WW3 and wake up buddy


runkaballe on 19 October, 2007 at 10:49 pm #

The US have the largest coal reserve in the world, they can easily survive 60-80 years before the **** hits the fan.


Lawnmower233 on 23 October, 2007 at 9:05 am #

I wouldn’t say you will to be honest. If you were foraging for food in an area then you would experience a “peaking” effect as you drained game and foodstuffs from the land. Then you’d need to move on as diminishing returns set in. I guess this is what hunter gatherers experienced in the past.

But stocks of stuff I don’t think you will have a peak with, at least not a noticeable one, since not much energy is required to find your stocks and extract them since they’re all in cans and r together.


yogiudo on 26 October, 2007 at 3:19 pm #

If you stock up a bunch of stuff and peak oil hits hard, and society blows apart - you will experience many things “peaking”. For example your salt ration will start out full and then peak. Your sugar ration will start out full and then peak.

Peak everything. Yikes!


LastReplaySC on 27 October, 2007 at 9:43 pm #

in 2013 Mexico cant export to the US, meaning your missing 15% imports, and there is nothing about to replace the supply loss unless the US goes to war with a few weaker states in africa before some other nation does, at around the same time the UK North sea brent will officially have peaked too…. make an educated guess when we’ll see the 1st Petrol & heating oil rations


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