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In which John discusses rounding in math and how oil companies use it to cheat you out of millions of pennies on your gasoline purchases. Visit Nerdfighteria: http://www.nerdfighters.com You can email exxon here: http://www.exxonmobil.com/Imports/contactus/contactus_contact.aspx This is the letter I wrote them: Dear Exxon, My name is John Green. I am a novelist and videoblogger. Due to your use of radically unfair traditional methods of rounding mathematics (which rounds up 5/9ths of the …

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dualitydarby on 23 November, 2009 at 3:34 pm #

DOMINIQUE

“Even at the very height of the 2008 oil bubble, a gallon of gasoline was still less expensive than a gallon of Fierce Grape Gatorade. Which strikes me as just a little bit odd since oil must be mined from the depths of the earth, shipped across the world, then refined, then trucked to a gas station, then sunk into a gigantic underground container. Whereas to produce Fierce Grape Gatorade I believe all you have to do is milk purple aligators.”
GENIOUS!


Ld5hkyplayer on 24 November, 2009 at 5:44 am #

CASEY

they rule is that anything higher than .50 gets rounded up, and anything less, .498 gets rounded down. If it’s .50 exactly as far as you can tell, then it is split up/down half the time based on the number that came before, as a general rule, round to even numbers. 4.50=4 5.50 = 6


Andygirl34 on 26 November, 2009 at 5:56 am #

CARROL

I laughed all through this….. Stupid third grade math!!


eevee4espeon on 28 November, 2009 at 12:31 am #

ELISEO

what if u were dutch rounding 555.55??


shagoosty on 29 November, 2009 at 5:13 pm #

BRUNO

To be fair a lot of companies round up as long as there is a decimal of a penny. So if something costs $4.011 they’ll charge you an extra 9/10 of a penny. Be happy the oil company isn’t doing that.


broadwaykatedaw on 2 December, 2009 at 8:36 pm #

CRISTOBAL

thats actually true.


HUY0005 on 4 December, 2009 at 11:13 pm #

CRAIG

maybe a couple times when he blinked you blinked at the same time….
theres something to think about…


joeyrufo on 6 December, 2009 at 7:55 pm #

DANIAL

hey! I’ve heard that Lincoln didn’t actually say that!


RunDontHide on 10 December, 2009 at 1:26 am #

GLEN

I have a little game I play whenever I watch his videos. I like to count how many times he blinks
throughout the 2:37 seconds of the video, he blinks 3 times


nerdra on 12 December, 2009 at 3:12 pm #

ELDEN

Good luck with Exxon… they recently refused (after a fierce decades-long legal battle) to pay damages to the commercial fishermen whose livelihoods were severely impinged upon by the 1989 oil spill in Prince William Sound. So get a lawyer if you want that 8 cents.


mcr4ever456 on 13 December, 2009 at 12:49 pm #

ERNEST

you screwed my head up


SmellyGina on 16 December, 2009 at 11:32 pm #

BARRETT

lol @ all the books behind ya. :P x


rino152 on 17 December, 2009 at 9:15 pm #

CLYDE

Gatorade is really expensive when you look at it like that.


Cjenpewpewfail on 20 December, 2009 at 10:53 pm #

DREW

//Thank you!//
I am taking my first college physics class where I have just learned the even/odd rule for rounding.
I was livid.
I called all my friends and explained to them how we’ve all been lied to our whole lives by teachers and parents.
Strangely, none of them found this as infuriating as I did.
I feel validated knowing you care too.


kissyface456123 on 21 December, 2009 at 3:40 pm #

CRISTOPHER

you really sure cal your mathematician and verify this… i know your history with math… lol


Mike88T on 23 December, 2009 at 1:10 am #

GLEN

Wikipedia= an infinite number of monkeys typing on an infinite number of keyboards.


VGsuperstar on 23 December, 2009 at 5:24 am #

ERROL

Oil vs. Gatorade…

even greedy oil execs drink gatorade…


macdoggy42 on 24 December, 2009 at 8:13 pm #

DOUGLAS

1.0 can’t be rounded down anymore than 2.0 can be rounded up.

Technically it’s not five tenths of the time, though. The range of 0.000~1 through 4.9999~ is smaller than the range of 5.000~ through 9.999~~


itsthegunnster on 26 December, 2009 at 5:40 am #

FREDRIC

Sorry, I misunderstood. I was trying to be a smart ass, and ended up sounding like a dumb ***. No harm intended, I promise!


Jaycephus01 on 28 December, 2009 at 11:58 am #

CRISTOBAL

4) If I wasn’t in a hurry, I could just calculate the exact pump reading to three places that would equal $30.00499, but that’s totally Monk. ;)
BTW, if you just fill up and stop at a random number, you are being honest and fair with the gas-station. Half the time you take up to a half-cent free, and half the time you pay up to a half cent extra, over the long haul. If you are trying to hit an even number, you are probably averaging about a quarter-cent free gas per visit. You’re the rip.


Jaycephus01 on 30 December, 2009 at 9:47 am #

ASHLEY

3) Instead, If I’m in a hurry, I try to see how many micro-squirts I can get out of each penny, and then finish by getting this number without advancing the dollar-readout. So, if the pump reads $30.10, and I can get 3 micro-squirts without it going to $30.11, then I know I must be close to the $30.10499 mark, right? I’ve maximized the amount of gas I can get for a penny. This also means that I am consistently taking almost a full EXTRA half-penny of gas from the pump without paying for it.


Jaycephus01 on 1 January, 2010 at 8:30 pm #

GARTH

2) So, if you are trying to hit a round number as you fill up, say $30, the point you hit is a somewhat random number between $30.00000 and $30.00499. I contend that most of the time, the number people actually hit when trying to do this is below $30.00249, or a 1/4-cent above the target. Therefore, people may be cheating THEMSELVES out of a penny per four visits to the pump, on average… depending on their motor skills and reaction times.


Jaycephus01 on 5 January, 2010 at 6:49 am #

BARTON

Wow, this is a Big Nerd fallacy: “if you round 1 to 4 down, & 5 to 9 up, you are rounding up 5/9ths of the time.” WRONG: Let’s say the pump-meter is accurate to three decimal places. You pump exactly 1.001 cents of gas, you pay 1 cent. You pump 1.099: you pay 1 cent. So the range of ‘1.0′ to ‘1.099 is getting rounded down. That means that we are really rounding down ‘zero to four’ or FIVE/TENTHS of the time. If you pump 1.499 cents worth, you got virtually all of a half cent for nothing!


mikahgiacchetti on 6 January, 2010 at 6:29 am #

CLARK

who is hank?


koolinsoos on 8 January, 2010 at 4:43 pm #

BENITO

lol purple alligators


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